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guybrush



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:26 am    Post subject: NEW customs; UCS ep3 jsf and mini tridroid Reply with quote

http://www.fbtb.net/gareth/UCSjint/index.html

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http://www.fbtb.net/gareth/MINItri/index.html

First customs on the new forum. Woot! Feedbackify me!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ep3 fighter is another wonderful design. you truly amaze me. as to the scale, it looks pretty good. you might be further convinced if you used the actual Lego R2 head. was there a reason you didn't? otherwise I think you did an amazing job, especially since few good stills of the ship have surfaced.

the mini isn't that impressive, but I'm convinced its because the actual ship's design is weak. maybe Lucas can give it back to Lost in Space or something. ::D:
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.

Actually, if you look at stills of this ship, the R2 head is a lot BIGGER relative to the ship than it is in my model, so the minifig head would make the problem worse. I don't use the minifig heads because they're too small. I use these little UCS scale R2's and R2 heads because they complete the look of a different scale.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like the JSF. i want some instructions. RazzWink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your Episode 3 Jedi Starfighter is very impressive, especially considering that we've seen very little of it thus far. My favorite part is the cockpit, the canopy is very well-constructed. The windscreens used to round off the sides are the same as the one you used in your UCS Episode 2 JSF, right? If so, I really like the idea to cover up half of each to get the shape of the canopy.

Very nice SNOT work on the wings as well, you've recreated the shape quite nicely. The R2 unit is creative, too! My only complaint is that even if they are accurate, the engines seem a bit small. That's more the fault of the one who originally designed the ship, though. Great work! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it really shows that you don't like the new JSF. Smile Some nice construction methods, but definitely not your best work.

I personally think the Tri-Droid Fighter is a wacky cool design. That being said, you did a good job on the MINI version. Do those hinge plates not come in dark blue yet?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil or Very Mad Honestly I don't see why everyones so negative towards the UCS JSF, I think it actualy looks pretty good and with like a max of maybe 4 teeny change it could look excelent.

Keep up the great work, and hope to see your Tank Droid in the near future.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like them both, innovative cockpit construction for sure. And I like your solution for the wing too.. Very nice model indeed.
The Tri Droid custom looks great in that particular scale.

Keep it up Gareth.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gareth, that JSF is awesome! I didn't think I liked this ship that much, but seeing it in LEGO form...it's growing on me.

I love it. Great job! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's growing on me too. The fact that real ship has more dark grey and less yellow (relative to the lego set) helps a lot.

The side pieces on the windscreen are like the windscreen on my JSF cut in half, so they don't extend any further below than what you can see.

I'll do instructions on commission as usual if people are interested. Email me about it if you want; guybrush AT nc DOT rr DOT com.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you built, Gareth, I think is quite nicely done. As for the scale thing... you know that people have gone mad trying to figure out scale withing the Star Wars universe. Best not to sweat it too much, if it looks good (and it does) who cares about scale. *dodges snowspeeder thrown by Brian*
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the ship is 8 meters long, then it oughtta be about a foot long (calculations come to almost exactly 33 1/3 cm). 1/24 is UCS scale, right?

That seems about right, given an image like this: http://www.geocities.com/ksw_img/img_eta2jedistarfighter_img07.jpg

Of course, I might be wrong, I have a horrible sense of length, area, and probably just size in general.

As for the MOC itself, I think it looks pretty good. I'm still not quite sold on it... I really need to actually hold and feel this thing to be sure. The Actis has really grown on me since I first saw it... It's way up there on my list of favorites, due to it's dual-nature. It has the standard, sturdy fugliness of the OT vehicles and the grace and impossibility of the PT vehicles. I dig stuff like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8m doesn't seem to be anything more than a guess at this points, based on the size of the original JSF. If this thing is 8 m, that would make the r2 head on board about 3 feet across.

Like OR suggested I've sort of relaxed about scale. I'm just going to build things at a comfortable size and not sweat being a tad off classic. It looks about right next to the other ships, and that's what's important. As for having it on hand, it's quite swooshable, and is growing on me in that regard. At least, it is with the wing flaps closed. For some reason I still find it quite the eyesore with them open.

Yeah, looking at those pics it does need to be a bit flatter. I was afraid of that.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love that R2, makes me laugh everytime(no offense). You have the details down very well, especially for a ship in a movie thats not going to be out for a few months. With all the buzz around this particular ship, I have to say this is by far the best one i've seen. Those wing lasers fit in perfectly, and your highly detailed cockpit make me drool. Im not a particularly a fan of the ship, however you my make me change my mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still say scale is a moot issue. George has never minded about scale. I read somewhere the Falcon is 25% bigger on the inside than outside, and I'm sure its true.

so those windscreen pieces, did you cut them in half or are they pieces that Lego makes that look like those jedi screens cut in half?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, not only that, but so many of the official measurements are contrary to what's obersvable in the movies. I won't be going out of my way to rebuild this model based on an official measurement, that's for sure. And I'm already pretty sure my proto-tank droid is too big.

The half-windscreens are an official piece (I may paint, but I don't mutilate.) They come in black, navy and sand blue on Slave 1, and are also available in trans black in a couple train sets. Fun pieces.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't really comment too much on what the others have said. I will say this, though, I really like the ship (probably the colors) and I think you design for this MOC is very good. I think the shape and feel is right. I agree with you about the tapering of the wings, though. It just seems more logical.

I know that the radar dish might seem strange, but it doesn't bother me. I'm actually bothered more by the dark gray wedges that unfortunately finish out the dome shape of the cockpit bubble.

That would be similar to my UCS M-Wing seat? I think that's my only UCS seat photos to be posted. Aren't those offset 2x4 plates just great for this sort of thing?

Nice job as always. Your details are always the best parts and I'm looking forward to your revisions (which I'm sure you'll end up doing) after the film is released. I agree that I'd like instructions as well, if you are ever so inclined.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with you on the ship's design, Gareth. Overall, pretty...underwhelming.

Your interpretation, however, is fantastic. Talk about not wasting time on a new vehicle! Overall, I'm very impressed with your version, though I'm not extremely familiar with the official ship itself (I've been trying to avoid as much info about Ep. III as possible to try to get at least some semblance of surprise and delight when the film comes out).

As for "official" vehicle size info...well, you know all about that! Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will the panels fold flat if those 1x8 tiles were moved?


Looks freakin' awesome by the way...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, or you can simply slide the flaps a half stud further back and they fold flat. The 1x8 tiles have to be where they are. You'll see why if I ever do instructions.

I tried very hard to avoid spoilers for episode 2, and it didn't help my enjoyment of the movie one little bit, and this time I'm more desperate for things to build.

TPM; that's the problem with these prequel craft, not enough detail! It's all shapes and colors.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome canopy solution, Gareth!

That said, I haven't seen any pics of the real craft (other than the ref pic in this thread) so I have don't have much basis for comparison. Still, you've managed a very sweet ship.

This ship is growing on me too. I just bought the system model and I'm now quite fond of it. Although, judging from that pic it's way too big. Man that's one tiny ship!

Oh, and the 'snot' work on the wings is excellent. I love the two-tone look you've achieved.

Great job! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome JSF. It's darn near flawless, as far as I can tell. Nice solution for the cockpit. Nice details all over, and the cockpit is fantastic. Great job!

As for the tri-droid fighter, that's a pretty good solution for a relatively rediculous-looking starfighter.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I am not a UCS specialist, the jeid starfighter is another great design of high quality and detail standard. I am, however, more a fan of the mini tri-fighter. A good solution for realizing the shape of this new craft! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed something really funny with this thread;

Everybody either likes the tridroid or the jedi interceptor (meaning the ship designs, not my models) but not both. Weird.

Thanks for the comments folks! I'm already toying with a few tweaks, and considering how much better it'd look the dark red and white color scheme, but it'll probably have to wait for me to see the movie.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dark red and white would be pretty sweet. I made a dark red/dark grey version out of the minifig set... dark grey only because the cockpit window is dark grey. Major flub on Lego's part, IMHO. They should make another version with light grey printing.

Ah yes, I didn't reply about the Tri Droid. I think plain blue doesn't look that great, but sand blue might look better (but they don't make those hinges in that blue, do they?) Otherwise, accurate to the lego set.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, very cool. I love that cockpit technique!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, looks great!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guybrush wrote:
I'm already toying with a few tweaks, and considering how much better it'd look the dark red and white color scheme, but it'll probably have to wait for me to see the movie.


I don't know how many people here ever take a look at Star Wars Insider Magazine, but I picked one up today becasue of this reference pic.

I think it's sweet.

[I removed the image for load time considerations]


http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=89186

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I had seen that. I used it during construction.

Look at the size of that r2 head compared to the ship. How short is this thing. 3 meters? 4?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you mean. The 'official' lego ship either needs an R2 of about four studs wide or the radar-looking section of the cockpit should only be about 2 studs wide. Their diameters look very close; the R2 diameter is probably a bit less. I'd say it's probably somewhere near 4-4.5 M.

There is also a slight taper to the wings in thickness, but hardly enough to notice when transferring into brick form, regardless of scale.

I'd say the white/dark red would be a super way to go. It really looks better that Anakin's 'souped-up' version. I am a bit surprised at how much battle-damage has been incorporated into these ships. It sure makes the transition in technology between episode II and IV easier to accept. I'm looking forward to buying the ARC-170 just so I can change it an make it more accurate. Should you decide to do a UCS of that one, I'm sure it's be one of your best. The ship almost begs for that.

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