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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either way, even if there are just people who uphold "American" values, chances are we'll never see them as president anytime soon. Campaigning for president involves too much money...money corrupts. Sorry, Loggy.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is why I said I hope to live to see it. I doubt I will, but I hope to.

You're right. Money does corrupt. Eventually someone will win without much of it based on a strong platform. But I have absolutely no idea when that's going to be. Decades, most likely (at the earliest).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, these are good times to be a pessimist.

All of the politics around the forums lately is making me want to be a politician Razz. Well, at least I'd have the LEGO Star Wars community behind me.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Logan Starfire wrote:
You're right. Money does corrupt. Eventually someone will win without much of it based on a strong platform. But I have absolutely no idea when that's going to be. Decades, most likely (at the earliest).

It wilt be thou.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh gee... thanks, Nostradamus. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Former senator and Law and Order star Fred Thompson is desired by many to run for the nomination on the Republican side, and he looks to be getting ready for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, today Obama was sworn into office and the U.S. has their first African-American president! Let's hope he's as awesome as he seems! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zekk wrote:
...and the U.S. has their first African-American president!

Kinda' Wink

Zekk wrote:
Let's hope he's as awesome as he seems! Very Happy


It is impossible to be as awesome as he has been portrayed. I really doubt he will live up to expectations. I see it as Obama being a real-life "Not Sure" from Idiocracy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GIR3691 wrote:
Zekk wrote:
...and the U.S. has their first African-American president!

Kinda' Wink

Zekk wrote:
Let's hope he's as awesome as he seems! Very Happy


It is impossible to be as awesome as he has been portrayed. I really doubt he will live up to expectations. I see it as Obama being a real-life "Not Sure" from Idiocracy.


First quote: Seconded. Everyone knows he's a Molotto.

Second quote: Hear here. The speech was NOT inspiring as it was supposed to be(not that I'm a fan of him at all; heck, I disagree with all of his policies!), and all I heard were what was supposed to be a lot of one liners that really were not funny.


And the wrong reverend Lowry.

His 'poem'.


I really felt ashamed to be an American, having that CRAPPY rhyming of colors spoken on a microphone heard by millions, nay, billions of people.


It's just a shame that we've gotten this low. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really felt ashamed to be an American, having that CRAPPY rhyming of colors spoken on a microphone heard by millions, nay, billions of people.


Hey c'mon, the dude's wicked old. Give old people a chance. He may not be Emily Dickinson but I think he did a good job.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well its better than having that complete nut as vice to someone who can't lift his arms above his head.

As I was going out, I turned off the TV when he was giving his speech and I couldn't help but feel a bit dirty.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Master Fetty wrote:
...blah blah blah.....someone who can't lift his arms above his head.....


If that's what determines how you vote, I cry for your generation. And I want to punch you in the face really really hard.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half of my school today went to a local movie theater that was streaming the inauguration live, so that was pretty awesome. As I live in Liberalville, USA, everything was received with a round of applause. Obama won't be able to get everything across that he wanted, but some stuff will get done. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CommandoEighty-Oh wrote:

First quote: Seconded. Everyone knows he's a Molotto.


Is that an acceptable term in our time?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chief:
I assure you that wasn't intented to cause a wish to punch. Believe me, could McCain lift his arms over his head, I'd still have been rooting Obama - simply due to my political view. Not going deep into the deep stuff that would cause argument, I'm a firm believer in the overall views of the Democrats and would therefore never want the Republicans in. And to me, the effort that was put forward by them this time was really poor.

I'm a tad startled by the seriousness of your tone and do hope there was some undlying humour there, but if not, you have my view above.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm waiting for your own ":D" or "haha!" to reassure me that you weren't serious about the comment I quoted above. Note I didnt say anything about Palin. Believe it or not, I voted for Obama even though I'm a republican.

But to say one candidate is better than another who can't lift his arms above his head?
No joke on my part, dude: you really frighten me. I do not look forward to the time when you can vote.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What even scares me more is that he is a Brit who roots for American elections...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Padawan716 wrote:
CommandoEighty-Oh wrote:

First quote: Seconded. Everyone knows he's a Molotto.


Is that an acceptable term in our time?

I've never even heard that before. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mulatto. As far as I know, this is a perfectly acceptable term.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CommandoEighty-Oh wrote:
GIR3691 wrote:
Zekk wrote:
...and the U.S. has their first African-American president!

Kinda' Wink

Zekk wrote:
Let's hope he's as awesome as he seems! Very Happy


It is impossible to be as awesome as he has been portrayed. I really doubt he will live up to expectations. I see it as Obama being a real-life "Not Sure" from Idiocracy.


First quote: Seconded. Everyone knows he's a Molotto.

Second quote: Hear here. The speech was NOT inspiring as it was supposed to be(not that I'm a fan of him at all; heck, I disagree with all of his policies!), and all I heard were what was supposed to be a lot of one liners that really were not funny.


And the wrong reverend Lowry.

His 'poem'.


I really felt ashamed to be an American, having that CRAPPY rhyming of colors spoken on a microphone heard by millions, nay, billions of people.


It's just a shame that we've gotten this low. Sad


I'm quoting this post so in five years you can't be embarrassed of yourself and secretly edit it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Joe wrote:
What even scares me more is that he is a Brit who roots for American elections...


America is the most powerful nation in the world. Everyone is watching nowdays, not just Americans.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Russia has more nukes then us. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chief wrote:
No joke on my part, dude: you really frighten me. I do not look forward to the time when you can vote.

Lucky for us, he's in Great English Empire.

America 1, Britain -1
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mulatto. As far as I know, this is a perfectly acceptable term.


Ok. I just haven't heard of it in a very long time, and usually only in discussions about racism and civil rights and stuff like that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kit_Fisto wrote:
CommandoEighty-Oh wrote:
I really felt ashamed to be an American, having that CRAPPY rhyming of colors spoken on a microphone heard by millions, nay, billions of people.


Hey c'mon, the dude's wicked old. Give old people a chance. He may not be Emily Dickinson but I think he did a good job.


But putting THAT on national display for the most important day in the year for America... I think it's embarassing. That's just my opinion.

Chief wrote:
mulatto. As far as I know, this is a perfectly acceptable term.


Thanks; my brother was wrong about the spelling then.

Austin wrote:
I'm quoting this post so in five years you can't be embarrassed of yourself and secretly edit it.


Excuse me while I'm puzzled.

Apparently you seem to be trying to... spite me? Hmm?

You have a very strange way of doing it. It must be some... liberal impulse?


Enjoy yourself whilst you... do whatever you seem to be doing. I said what I meant. No need to edit it except to change the spelling of mulotto. And if you think one small grammatical error is so terrible... You befuddle me.

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mulatto. As far as I know, this is a perfectly acceptable term.


Ok. I just haven't heard of it in a very long time, and usually only in discussions about racism and civil rights and stuff like that.


If you confine your sources of media to MSNBC and CNN I promise you will never hear that term.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CommandoEighty-Oh wrote:
Apparently you seem to be trying to... spite me? Hmm?


Hahaha, seriously? Like, really, seriously?

I listened to the same speech you did, and I didn't hear any unfunny one-liner jokes, and I certainly thought it was inspiring. You then pretend you can critique poetry by calling it a 'poem' with quotations around it, and say you're ashamed because of a poem read during the inauguration of the first African-American to the office of President. And it's gotten 'this low'.

And now, because I think it's funny how clueless your post reads, it's a strong liberal impulse for me to correct you? No, it's more likely age and experience. But I'd be glad to talk about it on the same level as everyone else has for the lat eight years:

It's America, dang it, love it or leave it! You're ashamed of our troops if you're ashamed of our President! Why aren't you supporting our efforts overseas by undermining the office of President! You might not like him, but you respect him and everything he stands for!

Seriously, if you're ashamed to be an American because of a poem, you're probably the worst kind of American in existence. There's many more things to be ashamed about from the last eight years than a stupid poem read during an inauguration.

I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that you're entitled to yours, no matter how wrong I think it is. But to try and bait me with labels when I say that your post contains some silly stuff is even more ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the whole ceremony was quite good. The poem was rather... meh, but that's probably because my brother and sister are both English majors, and are always reading poetry, so that poem kinda didn't ring out so well.

Obama's speech was great, he's probably one of the best orators we've had in office in a while.

The benediction was actually my favorite part, I thought he did a great job, and I laughed out loud at the color rhyming part, but not in mockery, in pure delight.

I was glad to be American watching that ceremony yesterday. Very Happy

( all this coming from a staunch somewhat anit-democratic person)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CommandoEighty-Oh wrote:
all I heard were what was supposed to be a lot of one liners that really were not funny.
Since when is a speech supposed to be funny? As for one-liners: in an age of sound bites you have to have to say a lot in a small bit.

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His 'poem'.

I really felt ashamed to be an American, having that CRAPPY rhyming of colors spoken on a microphone heard by millions, nay, billions of people.
I'll agree that that wasn't the best of all possible poems, but honestly "Ashamed to be an American"? I'm gonna side with Oz on this one, there are a lot more things to be ashamed of than a mediocre poem on international TV.

All that aside though, why hasn't anyone here mentioned the classical piece? I mean, Yo-Yo Ma and Itzhak Perlman playing a John Williams piece? Surely that's a good thing, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was the best part of the whole thing, IMHO. Smile Yo-Yo and Itzhak are living legends, and it was a joy to see them playing together. And Williams' work was excellent.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CommandoEighty-Oh wrote:

His 'poem'.


Joseph Lowery did not make that up. You may be too young to understand, but it was a chant from the 1960 Civil Rights movement (I'm too young also, but I've seen some archive films for history sake). He quoted it for emphasis on the progress the US has made and the progress the US still needs to make. Some people laughed because they recognized it and remembered when they first heard it. I don't think it was meant as an overall joke, but those familiar with its origins laughed at it as an inside joke.

Just wanted to clear that up.

I hope Obama's presidency will help turn the US back around. Right now we are playing 2nd fiddle to China. They are set to become the world's most powerful country if we can't recover economically and diplomatically. The only thing that's keeping them in check right now is our military power. But that will recede also if we keep the current course of action. Hopefully he will bring the change we need.
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